Bay Smith is a main character. Once a guy, she was turned into a girl several years ago. She keeps this fact a secret, and only a handful of people know.
She's now a struggling actress whose roommate is actually her daughter from an alternate future timeline.
Ugh. Not good. Brad has been Bay for only about 5 years…which means she would have had to wipe around 18 years of memory from herself. All of her growth and development from childhood into adulthood erased. Bay should be unable to function as an adult without those memories.
Not necessarily, she removed the memories, but not her personality. The growth is still a part of who she is, kind of like how people with full amnesia don’t usually completely lose who they are. Though it is true that there are quite a lot of risks Bay took to make this happen :/ .
Here’s the issue (CD and/or Robert correct me if I’m wrong). Apparently, memories in this universe cannot be copied, only transferred. Memory consists of two parts: Episodic, and semantic. Episodic is your PERSONAL memory, what happened to you in your life. Name of friends, family, etc. Semantic memory is your “education & general knowledge” part of your brain. Things you should have learned in school, science, odds and ends. Also morality and mores. Now we have 2 people here and one set of these memories. Who got the semantic knowledge, because the other is going to be functionally a 3 year old.
This knowledge is based on how amnesia works, however. In the case of amnesia memories aren’t lost, merely repressed due to shock and trauma. It’s like a write error in the File Allocation Table of your brain. Usually, memories are only truly lost if the brain itself has been damaged. The mental equivalent of bad sectors in your brain. What we have here isn’t anmesia, however. What we have here is someone altering you on a genetic level. Bay had all the “folders” in her brain timestamped before the incident moved to Brad. I’m willing to bet that’s both episodic and semantic memory.
There is no circumstance where I’d intentionally lose memories. Just no. Even bad memories serve a purpose in your life, as lessons or experience that you can draw upon in the future.
I was not against Bay trying to regain male form, but this solution is just stupid. It’s not so bad for “Brad” per say, but still, this is going to cause a lot of problems.
Looks like Brad2 is a genetic duplicate, now with memories from Bay…hmm very interesting. Much like two other characters from another comic I read…hehehe
Ran-san has a point, but people who lose memories of their past don’t automatically become vegetables. Considering that HRC can create artificial personalities, it should follow that they can parse memories, selecting some and not others, and also adding new “memories”. And if this reminds you of Blade Runner, yes, it kind of does. Maybe we should watch out for Dekker.
So I think maybe they share memories that the process didn’t tag as either “womanly” or “manly”, such as how to walk, how to talk, how to drive, how to hate that the NHL has more than three times as many teams in the USA… than in Canada.
Or we can just clap hands and pretend we didn’t think of this because, hey, this is a comic grounded at most in cinematic reality, and remember reality should never get in the way of a good story.
So, you divided your ‘male’ thoughts and memories from your ‘female’ thoughts and memories?
Well, this doesn’t have the makings of any ‘oh shit’ incidents at all, really… I mean, it’s not like those pesky ‘male’ parts of Bay’s personality were major contributions to who ‘she’ was – right?
Yes, but Berry isn’t a clone in the sciencey sense. She’s a duplicate from an alternate timeline cause by the SailorSun guys doing temporal shenanigans. Thus, she has ALL her memories, and has dealt with it. Of course, what level of timey-wimey mindjobs were put on Berry, we don’t 100% know.
Bay is of two minds about this.
Well, someone was going to say it.
Well, I expected t be the first one to comment, but whatever…
*to (unfinished typo)
And btw, the memory referenced by Bay & Brad is on page 1084-1087 (if you want to check it out…).
I’ve heard of splitting hairs, but isn’t that a little too fine a case for splitting memories? He gets cause, she gets effect?
Ugh. Not good. Brad has been Bay for only about 5 years…which means she would have had to wipe around 18 years of memory from herself. All of her growth and development from childhood into adulthood erased. Bay should be unable to function as an adult without those memories.
Not necessarily, she removed the memories, but not her personality. The growth is still a part of who she is, kind of like how people with full amnesia don’t usually completely lose who they are. Though it is true that there are quite a lot of risks Bay took to make this happen :/ .
Here’s the issue (CD and/or Robert correct me if I’m wrong). Apparently, memories in this universe cannot be copied, only transferred. Memory consists of two parts: Episodic, and semantic. Episodic is your PERSONAL memory, what happened to you in your life. Name of friends, family, etc. Semantic memory is your “education & general knowledge” part of your brain. Things you should have learned in school, science, odds and ends. Also morality and mores. Now we have 2 people here and one set of these memories. Who got the semantic knowledge, because the other is going to be functionally a 3 year old.
This knowledge is based on how amnesia works, however. In the case of amnesia memories aren’t lost, merely repressed due to shock and trauma. It’s like a write error in the File Allocation Table of your brain. Usually, memories are only truly lost if the brain itself has been damaged. The mental equivalent of bad sectors in your brain. What we have here isn’t anmesia, however. What we have here is someone altering you on a genetic level. Bay had all the “folders” in her brain timestamped before the incident moved to Brad. I’m willing to bet that’s both episodic and semantic memory.
There is no circumstance where I’d intentionally lose memories. Just no. Even bad memories serve a purpose in your life, as lessons or experience that you can draw upon in the future.
I was not against Bay trying to regain male form, but this solution is just stupid. It’s not so bad for “Brad” per say, but still, this is going to cause a lot of problems.
Maybe she gave Brad back his life, since it was forcibly taken.
Personally I think he should be called/tagged as “New Brad”
Don’t jinx the poor schmuck. Remember “New Coke”?
I went with “Brad” because we’ve literally never seen male Brad before. Even in the flashback a few months ago, it started after he became female.
Looks like Brad2 is a genetic duplicate, now with memories from Bay…hmm very interesting. Much like two other characters from another comic I read…hehehe
Ran-san has a point, but people who lose memories of their past don’t automatically become vegetables. Considering that HRC can create artificial personalities, it should follow that they can parse memories, selecting some and not others, and also adding new “memories”. And if this reminds you of Blade Runner, yes, it kind of does. Maybe we should watch out for Dekker.
So I think maybe they share memories that the process didn’t tag as either “womanly” or “manly”, such as how to walk, how to talk, how to drive, how to hate that the NHL has more than three times as many teams in the USA… than in Canada.
Or we can just clap hands and pretend we didn’t think of this because, hey, this is a comic grounded at most in cinematic reality, and remember reality should never get in the way of a good story.
So, you divided your ‘male’ thoughts and memories from your ‘female’ thoughts and memories?
Well, this doesn’t have the makings of any ‘oh shit’ incidents at all, really… I mean, it’s not like those pesky ‘male’ parts of Bay’s personality were major contributions to who ‘she’ was – right?
-snort-
I’m assuming Berry still has all her memories.
Yes, but Berry isn’t a clone in the sciencey sense. She’s a duplicate from an alternate timeline cause by the SailorSun guys doing temporal shenanigans. Thus, she has ALL her memories, and has dealt with it. Of course, what level of timey-wimey mindjobs were put on Berry, we don’t 100% know.
Bay is expert: after long thinking, she DID found a worse idea than all presented before.
Comic 1122 will be posted Late Friday nite, or Saturday