The Poor Webcomic Artist – (Another Rant)
Ok, so I have a question,
Why do people feel the need to insult and make snide remarks when pointing out grammar mistakes?
I mean, is it really that hard to point out, “You have a spelling mistake in Pannel 4, It should be YOU’RE instead of YOUR”.
If you want to prove how smart you are. Explain why it’s incorrect, ” “Your” is a possessive. It should be “You’re” in Panel 4. ”
Those comments I don’t mind getting and if I can, I go back and fix the mistake. Does making snide remarks and being generally insulting make you feel big or something?
Why do it? Don’t you realize all your going to do is potentially put the artist into a depressive state and not want to make comics?
I mean, when I first started getting into webcomics, I always wondered how author’s with popular webcomics could just stop and take who-knows how much time off. Or why so many of them seemed to suffer from depression.
Then it happened to me. The last time I got a rude, “Your spelling and grammar sucks” comment, pointing out my grammar mistakes in a rather rude way I was so depressed after, I couldn’t bring myself to make a comics for a week. Luckily I had a week’s buffer, so no one really noticed and only my buffer suffered.
I spent my past weekend, practically making comics non-stop… Why? well, as I’ve pointed out in other posts, I’m going to be going to a family event and will be away for a week, so not only to I have to get the comics for that week made, I have to get the comics between my prep time to that weeks I’ll be gone made too. Which means, I had to make 5-6 SailorSun.org comics and 2 I Dream if Jeanie Bottle comics.
And on the first comic I made for the buffer, I get smart ass grammar correction remark. Now I kind of feel I need to recheck the others. IF I do that, I may not be able to finish the last couple comics, I need for the buffer.
And to answer your, “WHY DON’T YOU READ THEM OVER.”
I do. I try to curb my spelling issues and have gotten in the habit of double and sometimes triple reading the grammar on the comics as I’m making them. This has helped me correct a number of mistakes. But still some mistakes get threw.
Am I dumb, or stupid, or dyslexic?
Who knows, but what do those writing snide remarks hope to accomplish putting down those making the comic? All you’re going to do if put us in a depression and slow or cease us from making more comics.
I mean, do you have ANY idea how much time, money and effort I put into making these comics?
Each comic is at least 2 to 4 hours work.
That doesn’t include the time I’ve spent on making the website, planning or extra little tid-bits. (Like has anyone noticed the changed banner on the top of the page?)
To think all the things I could be spending my time doing instead of making webcomics…
If someone doesn’t have a smart-ass answer, please tell me why you feel the need to mock the post webcomic author.
Haters are always going to hate. Don’t take it personal. Just imagine how horrible their life must be if they have nothing better to do with their time than to try to make themselves feel better/superior by insulting people that they have never meet. Love your comics and keep up the good work!
As I said in my previous comment, in the past, you haven’t seemed to take note or even care when these errors are pointed out nicely. You say you want constructive criticism, but then you ignore it when it comes around and continue doing the same things over and again.
Frankly, I don’t see the appeal of being a webcomic artist if it’s such a drain on time, money and energy, especially when you ignore or complain about the criticism for which you ask.
“Each comic is at least 2 to 4 hours work.”
Is that really all the time you put into the comics? At the currently listed MWF schedule, that’s 6 to 12 hours PER WEEK. That’s practically no time at all invested in something of which you seem so very proud. Maybe if you did one comic a week it’d be a reasonable investment, but at three per week it’s more like a half-assed effort at best.
And now, let all the CD ass-kissers rage, flame and hate those who don’t instantly think everything he does is pure gold.
You’re right your nobody special. If you can’t simply enjoy something someone is sharing because they enjoy making it without poiosning the creative flow, thats NOT constructive criticism. CD is making comics for his and our enjoyment. Nobody enjoys a nitpicking troll to shove every error down their throat. It NOT helpful it’s rude, so go make your own web comic and show how perfect you are…..
I admit I’m a bit of a grammar Nazi. I even like to correct other people’s grammar but I will NEVER EVER talk down to them. I like your comic and have been following it for some time. The occasional spelling or grammatical error I usually just gloss over. Seriously though, if spelling and grammar bothers someone so much that they have to berate the author of the comic they read then maybe they should go read something else.
And a special note to Nobody Special, coming from someone who has an Art Degree and still can’t draw worth shit (I sculpt instead), I envy CD being able to put a strip together in just 2 to 4 hours. And as far as 6 to 12 hours a week being nothing, try being an artist while working a full time job and having a social/family life.
I find it amazing when I am doing my own writing how many times I make mistakes and don’t see them until 1-2 days later. It is like when you proofread you don’t see what is there but what you think should be there from when you were writing it.
Meant to reply to the general comments not make a thread.
Six to Twelve hours a week is nothing, even with a social or family life. I usually work 40, sometimes up to 60 hours a week, have more than enough time for family and friends, and still have at least 20 to 30 hours per week to work on my hobbies.
I write adventure games – the pencil and paper, dice-rolling, tabletop variety – from scratch. It’s a real challenge making everything fit together, especially when I have virtually no control over the character development within the stories. In the 20 to 30 hours I spend doing this, I’m able to turn out a 2 to 4 hour episode per week. More often than not, I’m complimented on how well thought out my plotlines are, and the implementation of those plotlines.
I do work full time, I have a family and friends, and I am an artist. No, I don’t draw (or sculpt), but I create worlds and stories into which others may venture, and I do it well.
You forgot to mention that you have perfected the art of being a douche bag. We get it. Again, if it bothers you so much stop visiting the site and move on with your life. What do you get out of attempting to bring others down to your level of misery? Isn’t there better things you can do with your time? You say you have a family. If you have kids are you teaching them to be rude to others as well?
Harlock71, you completely missed the point of my last comment. I was merely pointing out – in response to John Tannius’ comment – that not only do I know what it is like to have a full schedule, but that it is also possible to do quality work within the confines of said schedule.
Some of you CD-loving fanatics are the last thing these comment threads need. How is any discussion supposed to take place when any negative remark about the comics are met with nothing but anger, hatred and name-calling? How is the artist supposed to improve his work if he ignores and decries criticism, or is denied any serious criticism by his adamant fans seeking to drive away anyone with a dissenting opinion?
You miss my point as well. If you HAVE been constructive in the past and it was not received/heeded why keep going back and forth? Unless your point is to be a jerk. Because that is the only message I see being conveyed with your posts. So, again I ask, why keep visiting the site if you are so disgusted with what you see? Since you are so good at ‘creating worlds and stories’ one would think that you of all people would understand how the tone of what you are writing comes across as mean spirited and mean. True, if someone is going to make their work public then they should be able to handle criticism. However the posts I have witnessed from you in the last few threads have been personal attacks. Did you feel that I was offering criticism of you by calling you a douche bag? Or did it come across as a personal attack? Surely you can tell the difference between the two? It’s fine to criticize just don’t attack the person with insults. That was the point.
Stuff the faceless masses.
CD’s writing is no better or worse than that presented by most people.
If you want to know why, then you want to look into “tall poppy syndrome”, it’s the Australian media’s favourite game to play.
PS: In the paragraph under the “WHY DON’T YOU READ…” title, you appear to have mixed up “threw” with “through”.
It seems to be a increasingly common mistake, or are people getting lazier?
Oh, but beware not to use thorough.
what about thru? 🙂
you cheeky soul
I believe THAT was done on purpose. 😉
I don’t worry about it. For all I know english isn’t your first language, or there’s some other perfectly good reason that’s really none of our business as to why the spelling and grammar isn’t 100% perfect. There’s other things to stress about in life.
I thought you had a grammar natzi proof reading for you, what happened?
I don’t have perfect grammar either but if you want a second set of eyes to look at your work just email it to me an I will return it next day. I really only need the text.
And then you have those individuals that have to prove to the rest of the world that they are the superior one by pointing out the mistakes others make. Usually with a sarcastic tone or snide remarks. Most of us outgrow that by the time we get out of puberty, but you always have a few that manage to slip through the cracks. They usually call themselves “critics”. Every author has to put up with them and should learn to ignore the way they criticize and pay attention to what they criticize and attempt to improve on that.
Personally, I like your comics and truly missed it when you weren’t updating and am thankful you are back. My brain functions well enough that I am able to read them and subconsciously make any corrections to any glitches that may surface and until some person points it out I don’t usually see it/them. Unless it really changes the context of what the character is saying, in which case the brain has to reach for a different gear to get where it needs to go and gets there any way.
Again, thanks for making these comics and welcome home!
When it comes right down to it, people use the anonymity of the internet to be assholes. Plain and simple.
Maybe they have some of their own problems and they’re venting at you to deal with them. Or maybe they’re just assholes.
If you want to be successful on the internet, you have to develop a thick skin. There’s no other effective way to deal with the large proportion of vociferous trolls out here in the wild intertubes.
I wish you luck in developing your toughened hide. Keep up the great work on your comics!
The real problem is that we humans can be incredibly dense when it comes to matters like this. I myself can be a total grammar Nazi at times and yet there are still days where I couldn’t spell my way out of a paper bag if I wanted to. If some one makes a mistake, I usually either ignore it and try to read it as I believe the it was intended or report it in a kind and sometimes joking way.
As for the amount of time spent working on the comic, different people work at different speeds. In other words, where some people can easily come up with deep and powerful stories in a small amount of time, other people find doing such things to be much more laborious. If an web comic artist can write a decent story and draws decently well they deserve some praise every now and then. Of course there will be the occasional troll that does nothing but spam negativity, but if they keep coming back and spamming that negativity instead of just saying that they hate it and leaving forever then they more than likely don’t hate it as much as they say they do.
And unlike anyone else here spamming hate/negativity or trying to argue with the thickheaded idiots, I at least have the guts to have added a picture so that I’m not hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.
Hi there
Quite a while back in 2010, I offered to proof read and check the scripts for you in order to help out with the situation. I’d sent a reply saying I was willing to help and then heard no more from yourself on the matter.
(I should point out I’ve not posted any comments when you’ve made mistakes, as I know you have troubles with this and take corrections personally.)
The offer is still valid if you wish for my assistance, though.
If you’d like to know the reasons for the corrections too, it might please you to know that I have an English degree and am about to start teacher training, meaning I’ll be having to explain such things on a daily basis anyway 🙂
Kind regards
Normally, i wouldn´t do this, but here are my 2 cents.
Ignore the comments/forum.
I´m just answering your post, not even reading the replys you have gotten so far.
Remember: Discussing anything on a forum is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you are still retarded.
Mean, i know, and not even mine. I read it somewhere, but it still brings the Point across.
If you don´t like it, don´t read it.
Comments are especially bad this way.
Granted, there are some people who are on your side, but the majority should live under a bridge. (Historically, that´s where trolls come from, just in case anyone doesn´t know that).
Eh…
first we are not in school,we are not anywhere that HAS to have perfect spelling.
Not spelling correct is not a problem,it can many times generate funny understandings about the same fact,even tho you can understand pratically everything that has “mistakes”
Spelling incorrect is not a lack of intelligence, complaining about it here IS lack of intelligence.
If you want to correct to HELP you should learn how to type like “lol loved it,i think you meant “mistake correct”in the X panel” instead of “You made a mistake, X panel” its completely different.But if you trolls are going to be stubborn about it,go read a dictionary.I suppose nothing is wrong there,and its fun.
Oh and thanks for all the pages updated,love them all.
Never stop doing what you do because of trolls,you’ll give them the victory they dont deserve.
Be happy,dont bother about the mistakes,as long as most can understand what was supposed to be said,missing is never a problem.
Have a great life and good luck at your work.
Ha! I see what you did there. 😀
Hi CD,
I’ve been reading this comic from the beginning and strangely, I’ve never noticed any spelling or grammar mistakes. I guess I’m more interested in the story and what’s going on. I guess in this case NOBODY is perfect?
Keep up the good work and don’t let it get you down.:)
Jenny
Oh and I was once told not to quite my day job. I offered to give the critic back the $0 they paid and I made from it. They never responded…